diff --git a/compiler/src/main/cpp/capnpc-java.c++ b/compiler/src/main/cpp/capnpc-java.c++
index 35d6f09..8a23a7a 100644
--- a/compiler/src/main/cpp/capnpc-java.c++
+++ b/compiler/src/main/cpp/capnpc-java.c++
@@ -1081,7 +1081,8 @@ private:
 
             spaces(indent), "  public final ", builderClass,
             " get", titleCase, "() {\n",
-            spaces(indent), "    return (", listFactory, ").fromPointerBuilder(_builder.getPointerField(", offset, "));\n",
+            spaces(indent), "    return (", listFactory, ").fromPointerBuilder(_builder.getPointerField(", offset, "),",
+            defaultParams, ");\n",
             spaces(indent), "  }\n",
 
             spaces(indent), "  public final void set", titleCase, "(", readerClass, " value) {\n",
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/DataList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/DataList.java
index de1623b..d8ee63f 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/DataList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/DataList.java
@@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ public final class DataList {
             return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
-        public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-            return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER));
+        public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+            return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
         public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/EnumList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/EnumList.java
index 28b0382..edd7e70 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/EnumList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/EnumList.java
@@ -20,8 +20,8 @@ public class EnumList {
             return new Reader<T>(values, reader.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
-        public final Builder<T> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-            return new Builder<T>(values, builder.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES));
+        public final Builder<T> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+            return new Builder<T>(values, builder.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
         public final Builder<T> initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/FromPointerBuilder.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/FromPointerBuilder.java
index 72b640c..37f19e5 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/FromPointerBuilder.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/FromPointerBuilder.java
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 package org.capnproto;
 
 public interface FromPointerBuilder<T> {
-    T fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder);
+    T fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset);
     T initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder value, int size);
 }
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/ListList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/ListList.java
index b63c4f2..d65a864 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/ListList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/ListList.java
@@ -14,8 +14,8 @@ public final class ListList {
             return new Reader<ElementReader>(factory, reader.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
-        public final Builder<ElementBuilder> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-            return new Builder<ElementBuilder>(factory, builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER));
+        public final Builder<ElementBuilder> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+            return new Builder<ElementBuilder>(factory, builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
         public final Builder<ElementBuilder> initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@ public final class ListList {
         }
 
         public final T get(int index) {
-            return this.factory.fromPointerBuilder(this.builder.getPointerElement(index));
+            return this.factory.fromPointerBuilder(this.builder.getPointerElement(index), null, 0);
         }
     }
 }
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PointerBuilder.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PointerBuilder.java
index 8e040ca..086c4d7 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PointerBuilder.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PointerBuilder.java
@@ -25,11 +25,11 @@ public final class PointerBuilder {
         return WireHelpers.getWritableStructPointer(this.pointer, this.segment, size, defaultBuffer, defaultOffset);
     }
 
-    public final ListBuilder getList(byte elementSize) {
+    public final ListBuilder getList(byte elementSize, SegmentReader defaultBuffer, int defaultOffset) {
         return WireHelpers.getWritableListPointer(this.pointer, this.segment, elementSize);
     }
 
-    public final ListBuilder getStructList(StructSize elementSize) {
+    public final ListBuilder getStructList(StructSize elementSize, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
         throw new Error("unimplemented");
     }
 
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PrimitiveList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PrimitiveList.java
index 2b639e8..30bc723 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PrimitiveList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/PrimitiveList.java
@@ -7,8 +7,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.VOID, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.VOID));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.VOID, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -54,8 +54,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.BIT, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.BIT));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.BIT, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -107,8 +107,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.BYTE, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.BYTE));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.BYTE, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -161,8 +161,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.TWO_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -215,8 +215,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -268,8 +268,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.FOUR_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -319,11 +319,11 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
     public static class Long {
         public static final class Factory implements ListFactory<Builder, Reader> {
             public final Reader fromPointerReader(PointerReader reader, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
-                return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES));
+                return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
@@ -375,8 +375,8 @@ public class PrimitiveList {
                 return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
-            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES));
+            public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+                return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.EIGHT_BYTES, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
             }
 
             public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/StructList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/StructList.java
index c6cd9d9..36825de 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/StructList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/StructList.java
@@ -14,8 +14,8 @@ public final class StructList {
             return new Reader<ElementReader>(factory, reader.getList(FieldSize.INLINE_COMPOSITE, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
-        public final Builder<ElementBuilder> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-            return new Builder<ElementBuilder>(factory, builder.getStructList(this.factory.structSize()));
+        public final Builder<ElementBuilder> fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+            return new Builder<ElementBuilder>(factory, builder.getStructList(this.factory.structSize(), defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
         public final Builder<ElementBuilder> initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {
diff --git a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/TextList.java b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/TextList.java
index 84e4e1e..811d7e9 100644
--- a/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/TextList.java
+++ b/runtime/src/main/java/org/capnproto/TextList.java
@@ -6,8 +6,8 @@ public final class TextList {
             return new Reader(reader.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
-        public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder) {
-            return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER));
+        public final Builder fromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, SegmentReader defaultSegment, int defaultOffset) {
+            return new Builder(builder.getList(FieldSize.POINTER, defaultSegment, defaultOffset));
         }
 
         public final Builder initFromPointerBuilder(PointerBuilder builder, int size) {